After the Embassy/Consulate Attacks

Apparently the Obama administration has pivoted and decided to take a path similiar to that taken in the aftermath of the killings at Fort Hood in response to the attacks last week at the Cairo Embassy and the Benghazi Consulate. Remember how Army Maj. Nidal Hasan shouted ‘Allahu Akbar‘ as he opened fire killing 14 and injuring 31, yet the Obama government classified this act as workplace violence–not terrorism.

On Wednesday, September 12, the US State Department said this:

“Frankly, we are not in a position to speak any further to the perpetrators of this attack. It was clearly a complex attack. We’re going to have to do a full investigation,” the unnamed “senior administration official” told a background teleconference briefing.

“We are committed to working with the Libyans both on the investigation and to ensure that we bring the perpetrators to justice. The FBI is already committed to assisting in that, but I just – we’re – it’s just too early to speak to who they were and if they might have been otherwise affiliated beyond Libya.”

Translation–leave us alone on this.

On Friday, White House spokesman Jay Carney said this:

“This is not a case of protest directed at the United States at large or at U.S. policy,” said White House press secretary Jay Carney. “It is in response, not to United States policy, not to obviously the administration, not to the American people, but to a video, a film, that we have judged to be reprehensible, disgusting.”

“There was no actionable intelligence that in any way could have been acted on to prevent these attacks,” Mr. Carney said.

The use of “actionable” here is totally subjective and leaves this issue hanging in the breeze.

And then yesterday, Obama’s UN Ambassador Susan Rice, in response to a question on Carney’s statement, said this:

“absolutely I believe that. In fact, it is the case. We had the evolution of the Arab spring over the last many months. But what sparked the recent violence was the airing on the Internet of a very hateful very offensive video that has offended many people around the world.

Now, our strong view is that there is no excuse for violence. It is absolutely reprehensible and never justified. But, in fact, there have been those in various parts of the world who have reacted with violence. Their governments have increasingly and effectively responded and protected our facilities and condemned the violence and this outrageous response to what is an offensive video. But there is no question that what we have seen in the past, with things like satanic verses, with the cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad, there have been — such things that have sparked outrage and anger and this has been the proximate cause of what we’ve seen.”

These statements from the Obama administration, blaming the attacks on an “offensive” video, indicate they believe the date of the attacks, September 11th, plays no part in the timing involved. They also want us to believe the almost simultaneous occurance (within hours of each other) of the attacks in cities about 750 miles apart were spontaneous. That while the attackers at the Consulate wore masks and some carried RPG’s it was still a spontaneous event. Further, the President of Libya, Mohammed el-Megarif, said this in an intervew with NPR.

“The idea that this criminal and cowardly act was a spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous,” he says. “We firmly believe that this was a precalculated, preplanned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the U.S. Consulate.”

I’m not surprised at any of this. The self-described incomplete President who voted present over 200 times and thought his intellectual personality, along with his living in an Islamic country, would cause the “Islamic world to look at America differently.(#37)”

This reaction to the events of last week, not even considering the lack of adequate security for an American Ambassador in one of the most unstable countries in the world, illustrates further the complete ineptness of this administration. I find it incredulous that the administration believes I and other Americans are believing this line of unadulterated, balderdash spin. Baghdad Bob would be proud.

Didn’t I read somewhere that the Obama White House gave inside access to the company producing a film about the killing of Osama bin Laden? How wise does that look right now?

It will be interesting to see what Jay Carney is (and isn’t) asked as well as his responces in today’s and future meets with the White House Press Corps.


  1. I think what happened is horrible, but easily predictable. It’s strange the view that Americans have to the phrase “Act of War”.

    When we bombed Libya a couple years ago, nobody wanted to vote in Congress about it, and the Administration tried to invent a new phrase to describe what they were doing, finally settling on the phrase “Kinetic Military Action” or some such nonsense. We bombed them, killed their citizens, participated in the overthrow of their government, and didn’t call it a war. And now we’re surprised that some people are upset over our participation (from one of the two sides).

    Same thing in Yemen. We have unmanned drones flying around their country, launching missiles at terrorists, and killing civilians at the same time. Nobody calls it a war, and yet I’m sure the families of those killed think we’re at war with them.

    This is not a problem with the Obama Administration, as this is coming from the Bush Administration too, and the Romney Administration would do the exact same thing.

    I believe our War on Terror slogan makes people think we can to into any country and bomb, and its all part of the same war… even though for the citizens of that nation, its a new war to them… waged by us.

    We should not be surprised at the blowback that our drone missile attacks, and other actions in the Middle East is causing.

  2. New poll finds Romney had the wrong response and Obama’s was right:

    And yes I know it’s not Rasmussen so it doesn’t count. Save your breath.

  3. this all started very very long ago and is the product of a culture that has been led by dictators and religious fanatics. our military actions in Iraq helped spread the fire and it will not go away. so……..instead of blaming and complaining , what it the right plan to protect our own intersts and our own country from an all out war? hyped up security never worked for the Russians, Brits and French.

  4. Randy in Richmond says:

    Lorax. I know you guys govern by taking polls but the poll you link shows 45 % of those polled agree with the way Obama handled the embassy attacks. That means 55% did not approve. I’ll take 55% in November. What Romney polled means little because he’s not President and didn’t handle anything.

    The following criteria for the poll highly leans toward the Democrats: “Respondents in the landline sample were selected by randomly asking for the youngest adult male or female who is now at home.” Also 5% more Democrats were sampled in the poll.

    But the MSM did a good job of shaping the opinion of many. Heck, we know they did because they were caught on tape conniving on how they could question Romney on the events.

  5. Randy in Richmond says:

    How many Russian, British, or French Ambassadors have been killed in Libya?

  6. Randy, that was a great response.

    Hang on you guys. I have family company in this week, so I’m a little preoccupied. I’ll be back eventually.

  7. None of this matters. Mitt Romney just called the 47% of Americans who don’t pay income taxes as “freeloaders” who see themselves as victims. Newt was right. Romney is a terrible candidate and is going to be walloped in November. The bad thing is that he’s probably going to drag Scott Brown and a few other good senators with him. Democrats are getting downright enthusiastic of voting since they are genuinely afraid of a right-wing takeover of the country.

  8. +1 KPOM.

  9. Truth is a hard thing to swallow – hey?

  10. Which truth is that? That the vast majority of Americans who pay no income tax have jobs and pay a 15.3% payroll tax rate which is a higher rate than the dummy who made the comments paid last year? Or that the second largest group of Americans that pay no income tax are the elderly? Maybe both.

    Hey, at least he anted up and told everyone what he really thinks for a change. It would just be more honorable IMO if he said it to everyone instead of a room full of rich folks who don’t pay 15.3% either.

  11. Randy in Richmond says:

    When someone uses quotation marks here with a person’s name and words it’s supposed to mean just that–a direct quote. Romney never used the quoted word “freeloader” . The quote in question was,

    “There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what… Our message of low taxes doesn’t connect…so my job is is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the five to 10 percent in the center that are independents, that are thoughtful….”

    In addition he didn’t “just call” anybody anything. The quote is from May–4 months ago and Romney has stated a similar position several times publicly.

    If we want to bring up what people have said about others campaigning, Current Obama appointee, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said of Barack Obama, he runs a “campaign that has the worst kind of tactics”.

    So other than the comment here representing a prevarication and having a false timeline, it’s right on track. And as BrkfldDad says, Romney’s original statement is true.

  12. Twist it any way you like Strupp. But I do get a kick out of “That the vast majority of Americans who pay no income tax have jobs and pay a 15.3% payroll tax rate.” You might want to dig a little bit into your confusion before spouting off.

  13. I liked this article from the UK:

    Here’s why: Yes, 46.4%, so 47% is close enough.
    Gee: Republicans support the earned income tax credit that creates that 47%.
    Gosh: There are a lot of wealthy who don’t pay federal income taxes either. (Not mentioned.)
    Dang it: Romney just included the elderly living off Social Security.

    It’s the “personal responsibility” comment that’s going to be a sticking point for Romney. As the article explains, that percentage (if I was the one doing to grand statement thing) is around 20%.

    At first I didn’t mind the statement, but now that I think it through, it was bone-headed grandstanding. And frankly, bone-headed grandstanding should cost a candidate.

    Guess it’s Obama’s turn now. It’ll happen. He’ll go off teleprompter (where he gaffes, unlike Romney who thought he had a bit of privacy in his preaching to the choir moment) and we’ll get another.

    PS KPOM and Strupp: Dudes. Take a chill pill.

  14. @Cindy, let’s face it. Romney is an awful candidate. It’s hard to recover from how this is being spun. He comes across as calling 47% of Americans freeloaders. That includes retirees, the disabled, people who have been laid off and can’t find work. The 47% number is factually accurate but it doesn’t tell the whole story, and the press is more than happy to fill in the “facts.”

    Romney is like John Kerry and Mike Dukakis. He’s an out-of-touch rich guy from Massachusetts. 2012 is like 2004. An unpopular president is going to coast to re-election because his opponent is out of touch and a bad campaigner. Worse, he’s dragging the rest of the ticket down. Elizabeth Warren is up by 6 points over Scott Brown, even though 29% of Democrats say they like Brown. Romney has Democrats fired up to go to the polls and prevent the GOP from taking control of the Senate. Nominating idiots like Akin didn’t help, either, but Romney’s a bigger drag.

  15. “That the vast majority of Americans who pay no income tax have jobs and pay a 15.3% payroll tax rate.”

    The number is above 60%. Many in this segment are lower and middle class families that receive various child care deductions and credits for the working poor. Nearly half of the other Americans playing the victim card are the elderly who paid income and payroll taxes most of their lives. Then you have college students who don’t have a job or are working part time. Then you also have a decent number of vets and active members of the military serving overseas. Hell, a lot of these people who Romney’s hammering on are people that are planning on voting for him! Here’s the Tax Policy Center. If it’s too liberal for you, feel free to find a shred of data that refutes it.

    Now, according to Mitt Romney’s tax records for 2011, he paid an effective (I’ll say it again effective) tax rate of 13.9%. The payroll tax rate is 15.3% alone which means that most Americans in his 47% pay a higher tax rate than Mitt Romney (and that’s just taking into account payroll taxes.) We haven’t seen his taxes from the previous couple of years but you can bet he paid about the same percentage of taxes in those years as his chances of winning in November, should he ever release them.

    The sad thing about this isn’t that Mitt Romney is ignorant about how Americans making less than a couple hundred thousand bucks a year live. I think that’s pretty clear at this point. The sad thing is that he’s supposed to have people who let him on the facts when slips into his Country Club fantasy world. These people aren’t doing their jobs very well.

  16. Randy in Richmond says:

    Nothing anyone has said disproves what Romney said in this statement.

    But what most have said has diverted the subject from President Obama’s dismal and failed foreign policy and his administration’s “who’s on first” handling of the aftermath of last week’s events. But I don’t blame you. If Obama was my guy, I wouldn’t want to talk about his policies either.

  17. Where all of these Democrats who play the victim card reside:

  18. my reference was to foreign countries who had land and business interests in other countries and were under attack for being there. remember, this all started with 9/11 when the Pentagon was not protected and we went after the symbolic Arab world to get even. the host country is legally responsible for protecting our ambassadors , etc. what about the protests, some violent, in Russia, South Africa, Great Britain, France, China, Japan and Wall Street. again, what is your plan to stop all or some of these protests ? I grew up with the Nazi Bund meetings in my neighborhood just doors down the street and all the police did was tell them to be more quiet. I was witness to the protests of Father Groppi and other civil rights groups. I saw Americans burn our flag and their draft cards with little or no punishment and those who ran to Canada were given amnesty. So, tell us of your plan for stopping the protests of these dissidents and at the same time your plan to stop or attack Iran. your choice is a plan or no plan.

  19. Of course, there are plenty of reasons for that. There are lots of retirees, lots of new immigrants with low income, and in general incomes are lower in the south, though that’s changing.

    The biggest correlation, as the article points out, is to population. Alaska is the lowest. DC is surprisingly low, as well, but I’m guessing that’s all the lobbyists and government workers who live in the District rather than Virginia.

  20. “Nothing anyone has said disproves what Romney said in this statement.”

    Here’s what Romney said,

    “There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, ….”

    Romney equates the 47% of people who pay no income tax as being Obama supporters. I just showed you that this is not true. Most are working families with children, veterans and elderly who, judging by the demographics of the GOP, will support Romney to some degree.

    The basis of his whole argument is incorrect.

    Just for giggles, here’s another gem from the speech that’s just unreal:

    “I have inherited nothing. There is a perception, ‘Oh, we were born with a silver spoon, he never had to earn anything and so forth.'”

    Ann Romney discussing when she and Mitt were in school:

    “They were not easy years… Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time.

    Gosh, what scary times those must have been. Good thing Mitt had some of daddy’s stock to cash in or else they would have had to go out and get an actual job with the unwashed! 🙂

    You know, I actually used to like Mitt as a person. Obviously, I don’t agree with Mitt’s politics but I used to actually think he was a good guy who just came from an entirely different world. Now the guy just seems like a shallow, ignorant aristocrat with now foundation in reality.

  21. Randy in Richmond says:

    I stand corrected because Romney implies all of the 47%. Some of that number will support him. Most won’t, but it might be a stretch to figure that number.

  22. Yep. That’s what I figured, too, Randy.

  23. Randy in Richmond says:

    Since I learned this morning that Mother Jones released an audio tape from 4 months ago I wanted to know why now. I’ve got to assume they’ve been holding it for some time, so again why yesterday. While playing golf today with some pretty smart guys one clued me in. When I returned a little while ago and checked–Bingo–he was right.
    So I’m not taking credit for this opinion though I fully agree with it.

    Just out is the Gallup Tracking Poll taken weekly. The previous poll was :


    Just out:


    And the previous Rasmussen Poll :


    Just out:


    Sure it’s only two polls a week apart. But what a hell of a week. Apparently something changed a lot of people’s minds. Maybe it’s the “Who’s on first” leadership the Obama administration has exhibited in the middle east. I really don’t care why. This is a snapshot of a marathon.

    But this goes a long way on answering ‘why’ Mother Jones released an October surprise in September. Obama could be in a little trouble.

  24. I saw the poll, as well. What happened was that Obama’s convention bounce turned out to be just that. However, it isn’t getting much attention. Obviously MJ has been sitting on it for a while. They learned from the whole “bitter” controversy in 2008 that an early attack on a candidate does no good. Had they launched this in May, it would have been forgotten by now. Instead, it’s a 1-2 punch just after Romney botched his reaction to the Libya situation (which a good candidate should have been able to work in his favor). Expect to see Obama’s numbers climb back up a few points in the coming days.

  25. Randy in Richmond says:

    We’ll see on the polling. But if there was ever a time to point out the left leaning of the media–it is now. I agree, this is getting little play and that won’t change. The MSM task from now to the election is to make mountains out of molehills for Romney and bring up essentially nothing of Obama’s past 3 1/2 years or what is happening elsewhere. But we on the right are used to this. Also we on the right don’t believe Romney botched anything. You see, we don’t watch or listen to the MSM.

  26. That is what this felt like – an October surprise that went awry.

  27. It’s kept Romney on the defensive, though, and time is running out. Obama is the one ahead. All he needs to do is rope-a-dope and he slides in.

  28. where’s the plan ?

  29. I think someone needs to research the definition of payroll tax 🙂

  30. I’m not so certain the rope a dope works. It’s becoming pretty telling that (if you believe all the left/MSM hype) Romney continues to trip over his own feet yet Obama can’t put any meaningful (definitely not outside margin of error) distance between himself and the Republican.

  31. Yeah, you. And add “tax incidence” to your list too.

  32. Isn’t it fascinating, Bdad? All that free MSM love. All that remarkable adoration. Romney ahead or -1. Wow.

  33. Continue living the dream Strupp, distorted as it is, I am sure it makes you happy!

  34. Romney ahead or under by 1? What polls are you reading?

    Even if I accepted that premise, what’s Romney’s path to 270 electoral votes? He’s trailing in every swing state except maybe NC.

  35. In the meantime, Baldwin is now leading Tommy! by 9 points.

    2012 is looking like 2008 redux.

  36. Well, the poll skewing is laughable again. Look at CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac. From one poll to the next they increase the sampling discrepancy by +4% in favor of Democrats and Baldwin picks up 3 points. Surprise? Nah.

  37. Randy in Richmond says:

    Polls can be fun to make a point here and there, but if you go back within a week or so 4 years ago and the polls voted–John McCain could be President. We’ll see.

  38. Randy in Richmond says:

    Back to the Post theme.

    Obama administration diverted as long as they could.

    Benghazi attack was terror.

    Next step they will admit to preplanning.