I knew it I knew it I knew it.
Remember how I questioned Obama’s crowd at a recent Oregon rally? The good man Silent E has spoken:
There was a little something that the MSM missed in the story. A FREE concert by a hugely popular Portland band called The Decemberist…
You’ll recall we’ve seen this kind of buy in from the MSM before - even in Waukesha County.
Oh, man. Am I really happy to know that Barack Obama is still a fraud instead of a phenomenon. He needs to leave the rock star image to the true rockers.
21 responses so far ↓
1 Kelly Frank // May 21, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Well, that may be, but I doubt that 75,000 people showed up for the band and not for Obama.
I saw Obama in LA a year ago at an event just after he announced that he was running. There was a sizable crowd (I think over 10,000) for that early in the campaign. We were treated to mini-concerts by two separate groups while we were waiting to hear Obama speak. People weren’t there for the groups, they were there for Obama.
Name calling over a large crowd that McCain couldn’t draw (rock band or not) doesn’t discredit Obama’s status as an incredibly well liked and well followed leader.
2 Kathryn // May 21, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Yes, I tried to attend a speaking event well before he announced his candidacy. It was like trying to get concert tickets: it was sold out before I got through to the box office. “Rock star” is a bit much, but he draws a crowd all by himself.
3 Shawn Matson // May 21, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Um, Cindy. First of all it’s The Decemberists, and it was a concert opener FOR Obama. And it was only announced a few days before the rally.
Funny how you’ve been blogging about scandalous band openings but not about John Hagee’s Hitler comments or McCain’s Lobbyists on staff.
This is really stupid, bands open up for people all the time.
4 Cindy Kilkenny // May 22, 2008 at 6:10 am
Sorry for dropping the “s” Shawn - it was a cut and paste since the phrase was a quote. I hope it doesn’t disrupt your sense of delicate balance.
John Hagee’s comments are disgusting and McCain should run like hell. The lobbyist crap is business as usual, though. I’m sure your fav guy has technically skirted the issue and forgotten to mention it. After all, with all that pork he was surely pleasing someone.
Bands don’t generally “open” for people, they open for other bands. And with the going price of a concert ticket - $75 to $100 - FREE has a pretty big draw in their hometown. Oh, you can chatter away, but it won’t change my opinion on this one. The crowd was a sham when it comes to measuring Obama’s popularity.
5 Kelly Frank // May 22, 2008 at 9:38 am
OK Cindy, bands have free will and can “open” for whomever they choose. They chose to play for Obama for free.
As for the going price of a concert ticket, your numbers are way off on this one. This is not a national, headlining band, just a small city one with some critical acclaim. The Decemberists list their next show as opening for a band Death Cab for Cutie at Les Schwab Amphitheater in Bend, OR. They appear to be the opening band at an concert with an astronomical ticket price of $33.
Also, I’d heard a report that John Kerry held a rally at the same location when he was running for president in 2004 and drew a crowd of about 50,000.
He drew the crowd all on his own, no fraud involved no matter which way you slice and dice it.
6 Cindy Kilkenny // May 22, 2008 at 10:48 am
Hey, I’d go to hear Death Cab for Cutie. And I do feel better now because Kerry lost, so it might not matter.
Provide some links and you have an argument.
7 Shawn Matson // May 22, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Cindy, my lobbyist comment is about the ones working on his campaign officially and still lobbying. Talk about running away from something.
McCain not only accepts Hagee, he embraces him. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/21/mccain-backer-hagee-said_n_102892.html
It’s funny that McCain is the only calculated chance in hell of winning, and conservatives are holding their noses (and some their ballots) for him.
But again, here we sit arguing over whether an Indie Rock Band is motivation behind the 75,000 people who showed up for an Obama event.
No talk whatsoever about anything of importance, just the very thinly-veiled attempt to say that the MSM is in the can for him, when most everyone agrees that McCain has had most-favored-philanderer status with the MSM for years.
8 Cindy Kilkenny // May 22, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Shawn, you have accused that McCain has lobbyists still working on the campaign and lobbying, but you have shown nothing.
Also, Hagee endorsed McCain. I endorse McCain. ANYONE CAN ENDORSE MCCAIN. You desperately seek to “right” the ill history of Obama SITTING IN THE CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS and using a sermon for a book title with another controversial pastor that’s been in the news. Here, McCain simply lets another man use the gift of free speech. It’s not the same at all.
The link you gave was all about how odd Hagee is, not how McCain “embraced” Hagee.
Poorly managed attempt if you ask me.
PS - I think the Democrats are far more divided after your prolonged mud wrestling match than the Republicans with a few “hold your nose and vote” ultra-conservatives.
9 Shawn Matson // May 22, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Hagee didn’t just endorse–they appear together and McCain has accepted Hagee as surrogate.
Get back to me in November, Cindy, when all your “conventional wisdom” is proven wrong (as has all CW this season).
I am not trying to right the history of Obama–he’s actually a religious man. McCain has flipped from church to church when it was convenient.
For all intents and purposes, everything Jeremiah Wright has said were true. He gives specific biblical references to back up his claims and, once again, it’s easy to sit and preach from your perspective.
But with what is true for almost all conservatives, you don’t really try to understand other’s lives or views.
10 Cindy Kilkenny // May 22, 2008 at 12:54 pm
“accepted Hagee as surrogate.”
Again, Shawn, this is your opinion but you want others to believe it as truth.
And since when did the atheist become an expert on the godliness of others?
11 Kelly Frank // May 22, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Here’s a link referring to the Kerry turnout of 50,000 in 2004.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/the-little-rally-that-grew/
Here’s the kicker, the 2004 rally had a big draw since Leonardo DiCaprio and Bon Jovi were in attendance at that one.
Obama drew the crowd without Hollywood.
The $33 ticket price is listed on Ticketmaster.com for the event on May 24th.
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0F004064E586BFD7?artistid=718349&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60
12 Cindy Kilkenny // May 22, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Kelly, thanks for the links. I admit, given this information, I may have to revise my opinion on how much of the crowd was drawn from the concert. Perhaps Oregon has it’s own “thing” going.
I also may have to fly out and see Death Cab for Cutie on the lawn…
13 Shawn Matson // May 22, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Woah, Cindy, let’s hold off on starting a religious flame war. Since when am I an atheist?
14 Cindy Kilkenny // May 22, 2008 at 6:17 pm
From a conversation we had? If I’m wrong, just say so.
15 BrkfldDad // May 22, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Wait, Rev Wright’s claim that the feds created the HIV virus as a tool of genocide to target those of color is true and backed up by Biblical references- I want to see that!
16 Kathryn // May 22, 2008 at 6:56 pm
This is a shin-kicking ninja contest.
17 Shawn Matson // May 22, 2008 at 7:06 pm
You’re wrong. I’m done. This is shameful bottom-feeding at its worst.
Kathryn, once again is correct.
18 Cindy Kilkenny // May 22, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Then I stand corrected, Shawn. I apologize that I offended you.
19 Shawn Matson // May 23, 2008 at 2:07 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/21/right-wing-obama-critics_n_102868.html
Ha ha ha…
20 Cindy Kilkenny // May 23, 2008 at 3:09 pm
I thought you were done, Shawn.
By the way your link is one man’s opinion and not much more than we hashed out here. So we did it first…
21 El gato // May 24, 2008 at 11:31 am
I’m avoiding posting here, but I wonder if any of the Obamaniacs would mind posting 1) a list of his past accomplishments, 2) a list of his exact proposals on what “changes” he can make, and 3) how he will write the laws that need to be written so that he can sign them into law.
It seems to me that the Obamaniacs are going wild for an empty suit.
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